David Brandt Berg (Moses David) on the Pope and Vatican and my personal commentary

David Brandt Berg (Moses David/Founder of The Family International (TFI)) had some intriguing things to say about the Papacy and Vatican, and I must say I agree with him completely on this issue. Please consider Berg’s comments below.

“But the one which did rule the world for nearly a thousand years after the fall of Rome was, guess what?–The Roman Catholic Church!–And you know how they persecuted the Christians, Protestants and so on from even the earliest days. So apparently he (the devil) moved on into the Roman Catholic Church as its Popes. And any study of the Papacy will convince you that plenty of those Popes were possessed of the Devil and certainly not the Lord, the way they tortured Christians and massacred them, literally by the millions–killed about a million Christians in Bavaria alone!” (Satan — King of Empires! By David Brandt Berg, 9 August 1980)

As many of my readers know I strongly believe the Papacy and Vatican will be a principal part of the antichrist’s final one world system. I also believe it’s very likely the Pope or Jesuit General (Black Pope) will be the final Anti-Christ or false prophet spoken of in the book of Revelation. Many believe the Vatican is a continuation of the Roman Empire, and that Rome continues to rule the world today through secret Knighthoods and secret societies. In King Nebuchadnezzar’s famous prophetic dream described in the Bible he dreamed about a number of Kingdoms that would rule the world, and Rome was represented by iron. The dream discussed how in the last days, the final one world government would be made out of iron and clay.

Is Rome secretly ruling the world today through the Vatican (an independent state within Rome)? I’d advise you to examine the below quote from a Roman Catholic Jesuit Priest when pondering on this question.

“See, sir, from this chamber I govern not only to Paris, but to China, not only to China, but to all the world, without any one to know how I do it.” Michaelangelo Tamburini 14th Jesuit General, 1706-1730

The great dictator, Napoleon, also had some interesting things to say about the Jesuit Order (Who are known to have ruled the Vatican for centuries, and the Jesuit’s currently have one of their own as a Pope).

“The Jesuits (Vatican Order who control the Vatican) are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And thenapoleonpic aim of this organization is POWER. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man . . . The General of the Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may . . . Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of the general.” (Napoleon Bonaparte)

James Arendt who is a member of The Family International (TFI) which is a group founded by Berg; believes that the Anti-Christ will be a Pope of Rome. I also believe it’s very likely that a future Pope could be the Anti-Christ. The Popes, Jesuit’s and Vatican have been murdering and persecuting Bible believers for centuries, and many believe they want to form a one world religion and government under the Pope. Jesus did say that many will come in his name and claim to be Christ.. Will the Pope claim to be Jesus himself and demand to be worshiped as a god? Will the Pope demand people to take a mark in their right hand or forehead to display their allegiance to him? The Pope is extremely powerful and often hosts and advises the leaders of the world. Is the Pope really a wolf in sheep’s clothing? I believe the Vatican, Jesuit’s and Papacy have not changed, and that they will once again begin persecuting Bible believers. I also believe they will again seek to rule the world with an iron fist and already control much of the world today through their Vatican Knighthoods.

We must remember that it was the Protestant reformation that broke Rome’s 1000 year rule of the world. David Brandt Berg conveyed clearly how the Roman Catholic Church was a continuation of the Roman Empire and ruled the world for centuries. However when Luther nailed his protest against the church of Rome to the church doors, and declared that salvation was obtained through faith in Jesus Christ alone; Rome began to lose its spiritual and political power. When the Bible started getting into the hands of the common people, people realized they didn’t need Priests and Popes to obtain eternal salvation, as the Bible clearly described salvation was obtained through faith in Jesus Christ. The Vatican’s council of Trent continues to curse people who believe in salvation through faith in Jesus alone. These curses are written in official Vatican documents and they have never been withdrawn. The Vatican curses Bible believers with over 100 curses and they are furious that they lost much of their power because of the Protestant reformation. I believe the Protestant reformation broke the iron Kingdom and the world is now ruled by a combination of: democracies (partially controlled by Rome), constitutional republics (partially controlled by Rome) and dictatorships (controlled by Rome).

Consider the Prophet Daniels word’s below.

“And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.” (Daniel 2:40-41)

I believe that the above scripture is talking about how in the last days the Vatican’s empire will be divided; as the final Kingdom will be iron (Rome/Vatican) mixed with miry clay (Constitutional Republics and Democracies). If the followers of David Brandt Berg hold his words to have meaning, then it’s clear that the Roman Catholic Church is a continuation of Rome and is represented as iron. If the Vatican is represented by iron and the Anti-Christ will rule this final one world government which is dominated by iron, then it’s very probable the final Anti-Christ will probably be a Pope or Jesuit General.

The Vatican influences and rules many nations and kingdoms today through Vatican Knighthoods and secret concordant’s. A concordant is when a nation signs an agreement with the Pope to be controlled and influenced by the Vatican. We must also remember the Italian dictator Mussolini made the Vatican an independent sovereign nation. Many world leaders such as the Bush family in the USA are Vatican Knights working for the Pope. Jeb Bush is a Knight of Columbus. Most of the Middle East also seems to be controlled by the Vatican as the Saudi King is a Knight of the Golden Fleece (a Vatican Knighthood). Most of the European Royals also hold Vatican Knighthood titles, which shows us that the Vatican is gaining back much of its world control which it lost during the Protestant reformation.

David Berg’s comments on the Pope and Vatican are consistent with historic Protestant preacher and one of the last Protestant’s of the modern era. Protestantism is almost extinct today as most mainstream Protestant churches are uniting back with Rome.

Below are some quotes from famous Protestant preachers who share Berg’s views on the Vatican and Papacy.
“Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of Antichrist, and the pope to be very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures, old writers, and strong reasons.” (Thomas Cranmer (1489 – 1556, Works by Cranmer, vol.1, pp.6-7)
“The Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of the church, in whom, by the appointment of the Father, all power for the calling, institution, order or government of the church, is invested in a supreme and sovereign manner; neither can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof, but is that antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the church against Christ.” (1689 Baptist Confession of Faith)

“There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalts himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.” (1646 Westminster Confession of Faith)

“Popery is contrary to Christ’s Gospel, and is the Antichrist.” (Charles Spurgeon)

David Brandt Berg’s comments do put TFI on a Protestant foundation as they agree with the above historical Protestant confessions. Believing in salvation through faith in Jesus alone was a rare type of faith before the exodus from Roman Catholicism. The Pope and Vatican had humanity trapped in the dark ages of superstition and salvation through works and rituals, and it was taught there was no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church. However when William Tyndale translated the scriptures into plain English for the common man in the 1500’s, the exodus from Roman Catholicism began and this is known as the Protestant reformation. The Protestant reformation began when the common man realized that salvation was through faith in Jesus alone, and that the Pope and Vatican were liars and deceivers. When this mass exodus from the Vatican occurred it birthed the above declarations and confessions of faith. TFI itself does preach a Biblical doctrine of salvation that is consistent with the historical Protestant confessions of faith.

I also believe that recognizing the Pope and Vatican as antichrist is an important part of end time’s education. The true believers need to know who the enemy is.

Current TFI member, James Arendt believes that the antichrist will be the Pope and I do agree with him. You can read James’s teachings about the Pope being the antichrist at the below link.


Some years ago, Ian Paisley (well known Protestant), confronted the Pope in European Parliament and denounced him as the Anti-Christ. Paisley also gave an interesting interview about why he publicly denounced the Pope in EU Parliament (prelude to world government/parliament) as the antichrist. Paisley explained how during the Protestant reformation when the Vatican murdered, poisoned and burnt millions of Bible believers to death, it was declared regularly by those who translated the Bible and died for their faith, that the Pope and Vatican were the seat of the antichrist. These Bible translators who were regularly murdered and tortured for bringing us the Bible, were the closest thing we have had to Apostles and Prophets in the last few centuries, so their opinions should definitely matter to us. Berg also did not forget these reformation and Bible translating heroes, and he recognized that the true churches enemy was Rome and its devil possessed Pope.

To read the full letter/article by David Brandt Berg which allows you to put his words in context regarding Satan’s empires, please visit the below link.


Below is another interesting website exploring the prophecies of Daniel which is recommended by a contributor named Karen Lane.


Below is a video of Ian Paisley protesting the Pope as the antichrist and explaining how throughout the centuries, Bible believers knew that the Pope was the seat of the antichrist. Will the true end time church be called to follow in Paisley’s footsteps by denouncing the antichrist Pope for who he truly is? Watch the video below.


5 thoughts on “David Brandt Berg (Moses David) on the Pope and Vatican and my personal commentary

  1. This is an interesting article but anyone that hasn’t read that letter could be misled here as it’s not exactly in line with what David Berg said In the “Satan King of Empires” letter. He actually went onto say that the Anitichrist moved from Rome into the US when it superseded all those former empires and became the economic ruling power of the world which is Babylon the Great, the final Empire before the Antichrist Kingdom. There is an interesting blog here : http://www.propheciesofdaniel.com/about/ by Mark McMillion which you may be interested to look on if you haven’t already. He has some excellent videos on the prophecies of Daniel that you will find are exactly in line with David Berg’s letters and views on these subjects.


    • Hello Karen and thank you for taking the time to comment on the article. I value what you say because I know you have been a TFI member for a longtime and probably know more than me. At the bottom of the article I will provide a link to the full Mo letter and tell people to read the full Mo letter, so they can put my personal opinions and article in the correct context. I will also provide a link to the other website that you shared. Thanks for making those things clear to me and I will add those links to the article.


    • Hello again Karen. I have added text to the article in relation to your comments as I value your opinion and respect that you have been a long term TFI member. This is the text I have added to the article:

      To read the full letter/article by David Brandt Berg which allows you to put his words in context regarding Satan’s empires, please visit the below link.


      Below is another interesting website exploring the prophecies of Daniel which is recommended by a contributor named Karen Lane.


      I hope this does the article justice and allows readers to put everything into context. Thanks again for your input Karen, I value your opinion and appreciate your involvement in the website.


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